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Todd Cordell
Location: ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 4 @ 12:40 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Calgary Flames: Negotiations With Brodie Haven't Begun + Grabovski?
saneopinion
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jul 4 @ 12:43 PM ET
I think just waiver claiming him would be ideal.
Flames-in-6-04
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.03.2013

Jul 4 @ 12:45 PM ET
I see no reason to continue to collect 2nd or 3rd line center. I'd really like to see us try and get Ference for a two or three year term. Give Monahan a shot at the 1C spot. We have nothing to lose with this young team.
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:49 PM ET
I see no reason to continue to collect 2nd or 3rd line center. I'd really like to see us try and get Ference for a two or three year term. Give Monahan a shot at the 1C spot. We have nothing to lose with this young team.
- Flames-in-6-04


You don't just throw Monahan 20+ minutes a night against opposing teams top defense pairings/defensive centers. He's not ready for that. I think he's NHL ready but you could argue he should stay in the OHL another year.

The Flames need a center.
elcabong
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm not sure... I lost my GPS, QC
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jul 4 @ 12:52 PM ET
I imagine Grabovski could be had for less money and term than Bozak so if the Flames are going to sign a centerman, I think Grabovski would be the better fit for them.

Not good enough for the Leafs but he's a sure fit in Calgary?
kickazzflames
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 09.06.2007

Jul 4 @ 12:53 PM ET
You maybe give Monahan his 9 game tryout at most, but you do not waste an ELC year if you don't have too. Cammy will most likely be #1 to start, Backlund #2, and I'd like to see Grabo as #3, then Knight/reinhart for #4.

* Forgot about Stajan.. yikes.
sudburyboy
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 08.01.2010

Jul 4 @ 12:57 PM ET
I can't believe that Grabo's getting the boot. IMO, he was the hardest working player in blue this year. The fact that Phaneuf still wears a leafs jersey is just embarrassing.
kickazzflames
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 09.06.2007

Jul 4 @ 12:59 PM ET
Something like this?

Baertschi-Backlund-Hudler
Glencross-Stajan-Stempniak
Galiardi-Grabovski-Raymond
Jones-Knight-Reinhart
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:00 PM ET
You maybe give Monahan his 9 game tryout at most, but you do not waste an ELC year if you don't have too. Cammy will most likely be #1 to start, Backlund #2, and I'd like to see Grabo as #3, then Knight/reinhart for #4.

* Forgot about Stajan.. yikes.

- kickazzflames


If all goes as planned, Cammalleri will be traded before the season.
Sanintarious
Calgary Flames
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.07.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:06 PM ET
Someone on Flamesnation mentioned they heard the Fan960 talking as if the Flames have an "agreement" for Mason Raymond (any truth to this??)

he hasn't been the same since his injury, but he is young and very fast. If we can get him at a good price on a 2-3 year deal, I'd be all for it.

As for Grabo...I'm all for the Flames just picking him up. He is the best Center option out there coming in to the UFA market. Clarkson will get WAY overpaid. Bozak isn't that much better then Grabo (if at all), and Grabo can play 2 way.

I'd personally pick him up off waivers. If he goes to market, he likely wouldn't pick Calgary anyways. not to mention, he would likely still get 4.5m per season on the market anyways. Flames have plenty of space, and he would have all the opertunities possible next year.

Make it happen Feaster! I think Flames will wait till closer to the deadline to trade Cammy, but he will FOR SURE be traded, at some point this season.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 1:06 PM ET
I think just waiver claiming him would be ideal.
- saneopinion

FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 1:08 PM ET
You maybe give Monahan his 9 game tryout at most, but you do not waste an ELC year if you don't have too. Cammy will most likely be #1 to start, Backlund #2, and I'd like to see Grabo as #3, then Knight/reinhart for #4.

* Forgot about Stajan.. yikes.

- kickazzflames

No, it would/should be
Backs
Grabo
Stajan/Knight
Knight/Stajan

Call up Reinhart and Horak when one inevitably gets injured and see how they do.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 1:10 PM ET
Something like this?

Baertschi-Backlund-Hudler
Glencross-Stajan-Stempniak
Galiardi-Grabovski-Raymond
Jones-Knight-Reinhart

- kickazzflames

I'd prefer not to sign Raymond

Baertschi-Backlund-Hudler
Glencross-Grabovski-Stempniak
Galiardi-Stajan-Hanowski
Jones-Knight-Reinhart
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Jul 4 @ 1:14 PM ET
I'd prefer not to sign Raymond

Baertschi-Backlund-Hudler
Glencross-Grabovski-Stempniak
Galiardi-Stajan-Hanowski
Jones-Knight-Reinhart

- FLflames34

At 4M per Jones better not be on our 4th line.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 1:18 PM ET
At 4M per Jones better not be on our 4th line.
- whipper334

Well it just supports why they don't need to sign Raymond, yet another winger. I'd he ok with him on the 3rd as well, lining up on the right. Galiardi-Stajan-Jones would be a tough puck possession line at the least.
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:24 PM ET
Something like this?

Baertschi-Backlund-Hudler
Glencross-Stajan-Stempniak
Galiardi-Grabovski-Raymond
Jones-Knight-Reinhart

- kickazzflames


No way Stajan is ahead of Grabovski.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Jul 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
I'd prefer not to sign Raymond

Baertschi-Backlund-Hudler
Glencross-Grabovski-Stempniak
Galiardi-Stajan-Hanowski
Jones-Knight-Reinhart

- FLflames34

Raymond will probably replace Hanowski.
kickazzflames
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 09.06.2007

Jul 4 @ 1:27 PM ET
No way Stajan is ahead of Grabovski.
- Todd.Cordell


Only reason I had it like that was Stajan line was the only line that had any sort of success last season.
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:32 PM ET
Only reason I had it like that was Stajan line was the only line that had any sort of success last season.
- kickazzflames


That's fair. I also highly doubt they elect to put two kids on the 4th line.
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:32 PM ET
At 4M per Jones better not be on our 4th line.
- whipper334


He won't be on the 4th line
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

Jul 4 @ 1:34 PM ET
I see no reason to continue to collect 2nd or 3rd line center. I'd really like to see us try and get Ference for a two or three year term. Give Monahan a shot at the 1C spot. We have nothing to lose with this young team.
- Flames-in-6-04


Uh, try the fact they still have only 2 NHL proven centers? And 1st line centers don't grow on trees, flames fans should realize this by now. It's possible Monahan makes the team next year but forcing him into the #1 spot immediately, just for the sake of doing so, is foolish to me. Personally I don't favor burning off year 1 of his rookie deal in any case.

Re: Brodie - it was noted by a journalist on twitter yesterday that RFA negotiations often don't start until later in the summer, when the UFA market price has been set.
kickazzflames
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 09.06.2007

Jul 4 @ 1:38 PM ET
Add:

Grabo
Raymond
Ference

And we should have some pretty solid competition come training camp. If this happened though, I have no idea what the lines could actually look like. We have so many Wingers right now.

Feaster - Bringing in Speed, Size, and Youth (minus Ference haha)

Let Hartley sort them out.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 1:39 PM ET
Add:

Grabo
Raymond
Ference

And we should have some pretty solid competition come training camp. If this happened though, I have no idea what the lines could actually look like. We have so many Wingers right now.

Feaster - Bringing in Speed, Size, and Youth (minus Ference haha)

Let Hartley sort them out.

- kickazzflames

Give me one reason why they need Raymond?
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

Jul 4 @ 1:40 PM ET
Give me one reason why they need Raymond?
- FLflames34


I think people have a soft spot for him because he's from Calgary and has (had?) speed. Meh.
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:42 PM ET
I think people have a soft spot for him because he's from Calgary and has (had?) speed. Meh.
- S Kaspar Rollins


Raymond is okay but I don't see why so many Flames fans want him. He's not that great + Flames already have an abundance of wingers. Need centers or a top-4 D.
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